Atlantis...
                  Fact or Fiction

An interview with Arysio Nunes dos Santo

A: Lemuria was originally the name given to a vast hypothetical sunken continent or a land bridge stretching across the Indian Ocean and Indonesia all the way to the central Pacific Ocean. It was postulated by naturalists of the past century in order to explain the presence of the lemur (a small primate) both in Madagascar and the Indies. By coincidence, the lemurs derive their name from that of the Lemurs (or "Ancestors") and for the Indonesians who believed man descended from the apes.

Hence, the name Lemuria can be interpreted as "Land Ancestral" or "Land of the Ancestors." Alternative names include Mu or Mu-devi, the Hindu Mother Goddess. Mu means "Mother" in Dravida, and Mu-devi means "Mother Goddess." Mu (or Mu-devi) - also called Uma in Sanskrit - is the personification of Lemurian Atlantis itself, the Motherland of Humanity. Similarly, Shiva, her husband and counterpart, is the "Great Father" of Mankind.

Q: You claim to have discovered the true site of Atlantis. Has anyone ever proposed an Indonesian site before?

A: This one is an extremely interesting question. Of the several thousand books written on Atlantis, not a single one has ever proposed the location of Indonesia.

Q: And why is that?

A: Because they have been searching on the wrong side of the world, mainly on ethnocentric grounds. No one ever realized the true cradle of the Aryans was never the Caucasus Mountains or North Asia, but Indonesia, the true site of Eden.

When their pristine Paradise sunk, the Aryans, like other races of Eden, moved into India first, and from there to distant regions such as the British Isles (the Celts), Scandinavia (the Norse), and even the Americas. So did the Dravidas, their darker counterparts and "twins," born in the primeval Atlantis of Indonesia.

Q: How was Atlantis actually destroyed?

A: By means of the giant cataclysm called the Flood. Realize the Flood is not just a Biblical invention but a fact recorded in hundreds of mythologies, the world over. As many myths describe it, the Flood was caused by a giant volcanic explosion that stirred up the seas, sending them over the continents. This tsunami (often improperly called a 'tidal wave') reached up to the summit of the loftiest mountains, killing all life in their way. The colossal volcanic explosion also covered the skies with cinders and evaporated water, so that, indeed it "rained for 40 days and 40 nights." The event occurred some 11,600 years ago, and caused the end of the Pleistocene or, its last glacial episode. The vestiges of the Flood are visible everywhere- particulary over the North American continent.

Q: What, if any, are the extant vestiges of Atlantis?

A: The paideuma (or "Soul") of Atlantis is so present in all things we do it is as difficult to observe as the air we breath. Essentially, the whole of civilization - the things and ideas that renders mankind something more than just ordinary beasts - derive rather directly from Atlantis. Our religion, magic, divination, laws and commandments, Holy Scriptures, philosophy and metaphysics, our mathematics, astronomy, music and poetry all came from Atlantis. Small wonder, then, that so many authors discover vestiges of Atlantis just about everywhere, mistaking the copies for the real thing.

Moreover, our Atlantean heritage also encompasses the arts and techniques such as agriculture, animal domestication, and the greatest inventions. Without domesticated plants and animals - most or all of which originated in Atlantis, and often embody an advanced use of genetic engineering - could never have developed at all. Besides these, a series of inventions of mysterious origins that came to us from the dawn of time, are also owed to Atlantis and Lemuria: metallurgy, stone masonry, sculpture, paper, the alphabet, medicinal drugs, gunpowder, weaving, and so on.

Q: Is there a connection between Atlantis and the Millennium?

A: To be sure, there is. Destruction of Atlantis is allegorized as the Death of the God we have in almost all religious traditions: the death of Osiris, the one of Christ, that of Adonis, Attis, Kronos, Tammuz, Baal, Dionysus Zagreus, and a myriad others. In more symbolic terms, the death of Atlantis is also allegorized by the death of the Bull or, even better, that of the Phoenix. But the death of the God is also followed by his resurrection, which is also the resurrection of the Phoenix.

Hence, just as Christ shall return, together with the Celestial Jerusalem, so will the Phoenix which also represents Atlantis as the City Celestial. And this return of the Phoenix is really the one of Atlantis, indeed programmed long ago to occur just now, starting at the turn of this final millennium of mankind. This is the Millennium prophesied in the Book of Revelation and in a myriad of other sources. And that is why you will be seeing Atlantis being reborn in both myth and reality, from its secret cradle in the Far Orient.

Q: What ancient civilizations were created or influenced by Atlantis?

A: Atlantis created colonies the world over. Some of these were great, others small and more primitive. The Atlanteans were "Gods," or "Angels" or "Civilizing Heroes" whom we find in essentially all traditions. They are the Nagas of India and Indonesia, the Oannes of Sumero-Babylon, the Cabeiri and Corybants or, yet, the Heroes such as Hercules, Prometheus and Cadmus of the Greeks and Romans, and so on.

In the Americas and Oceania, we have essentially the same traditions of heroes or gods. Very often these heroes are Titans or Nagas, the mighty white giants from Atlantis. The term Naga ("Dragon," "Serpent") is at the origin of the myth of the Civilizing Hero who kills the Dragon and initiates local civilization almost everywhere.

In reality, the Dragon and Hero represent two races of Atlantis, the Dravidas and Aryans, one darker, the other whiter, who contend for hegemony everywhere. They are the Twins of all mythologies, the two contending serpents of the Caduceus (or of the Ouroboros and the Uraeus) which devour each other in endless wars from the primordials of mankind down to the present day. But their wars will cease at the coming of the Millennium (now!) for the return of the Golden Age means just that: "the Lamb will lay unharmed with the Lion." ?